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2009 Kia Optima: what breaks, and at what mileage

What breaks on the 2009 Kia Optima

On the 2009 Kia Optima, the failure owners report most often is other powertrain problem, and the reports cluster around 65,000 miles. The earliest to appear is other brake problem, reported by a median of 60,000 miles. Overall it scores 69 out of 100, high risk for a 2009.

High risk for a 2009 — 149th riskiest of the 295 2009 vehicles we can rate. 166 owner reports; fleet size estimated from this year's own recall paperwork.

The failures owners actually file about

Owners have reported 34 named failure modes on the 2009 Kia Optima, and the three most-reported carry 31% of everything filed, which is an unusually even spread for one model year.

Other powertrain problem leads with 24 reports, about 0.7 per 1,000 vehicles and with the middle half of reports between 51k to 80,000 miles.

Airbag warning light or occupant sensor fault follows with 14 reports, usually reported between 70k to 95,000 miles.

Other brake problem follows with 13 reports, usually reported between 50k to 85,000 miles. 1 of those report mention a fire.

By system, the reports fall mostly into transmission (30), airbag (23) and electrical (23).

The mileage the reports cluster at

135 of the reports on the 2009 Kia Optima came with an odometer reading, and half of those were filed before 65,000 miles.

Cumulatively, 29% by 50,000 miles, 82% by 100,000 miles and 96% by 150,000 miles of the dated reports had been filed.

The busiest stretch is between 60,000 and 70,000 miles, which alone holds 19% of the dated reports.

24% of the dated reports were filed below 36,000 miles.

In the order they tend to show up: other brake problem around 60k, other powertrain problem around 64k, airbag warning light or occupant sensor fault around 75k and other engine problem around 113k.

Median
  1. Other powertrain problem 64k
  2. Airbag warning light or occupant sensor fault 75k
  3. Other brake problem 60k
  4. Other engine problem 113k
  5. Ignition switch, key fob or immobilizer failure 67k
  6. Other speed control problem 65k
  7. Other electrical problem 47k
  8. Complete transmission failure 64k
  9. Seat belt or retractor failure 22k
  10. Cruise control failure 97k
  11. Other driver assistance problem 47k
  12. Tail light, brake light or signal failure 70k

Tick median reported mileage Solid middle half of reports Faint 10th to 90th percentile Colour how bad the failure is when it happens

Showing the 12 most-reported failure modes of 34. The full list is in the table below.

How reports accumulate

Share of reports filed by each mileage
half by 65k

Every report with an odometer reading, cumulative, from 0 to 200,000 miles. A curve that climbs early is a car with early problems, whatever its total.

  • Line share of reports filed by that mileage
  • Dashed the median reported mileage

How bad it is when it goes

Across the named modes, 5 mention a crash, 10 a fire and 3 an injury. Those are the words owners used in their own complaints, and NHTSA does not verify them, but they are the closest thing in this data to a measure of what a failure actually did.

The average severity weight across every report on this year is 4.83, where a stalled engine or a failed airbag weighs many times more than a rattling trim panel, and a figure this high means the reports are dominated by failures with safety consequences rather than annoyances. The weighting is set out in full on the methodology page.

What the top failures cost to put right, as editorial estimates for an independent US shop rather than figures from NHTSA: other powertrain problem at $400–$4,500, airbag warning light or occupant sensor fault at $300–$1,600, other brake problem at $300–$1,800 and other engine problem at $300–$4,000. Dealer labour, a seized bolt or a part that is no longer made can push any of these past the top of its range.

26% of the reports on this year sit in the engine, transmission, drivetrain or cooling systems — the four where a repair bill is usually four figures.

Every reported failure mode

Mileage figures are percentiles of owner-reported readings. Click a column to sort.
Failure mode System Reports With reading 25th Median 75th Per 1,000 Typical repair Severity
Other powertrain problem transmission 24 22 51k 64k 80k 0.7 $400–$4,500 High
Airbag warning light or occupant sensor fault airbag 14 12 70k 75k 95k 0.4 $300–$1,600 High
Other brake problem brakes 13 9 50k 60k 83k 0.4 $300–$1,800 High
Other engine problem engine 12 10 35k 113k 145k 0.4 $300–$4,000 High
Ignition switch, key fob or immobilizer failure electrical 11 7 — 67k — 0.3 $250–$1,500 High
Other speed control problem adas 8 6 — 65k — 0.2 $250–$2,000 Critical
Other electrical problem electrical 6 5 — 47k — 0.2 $250–$2,000 Moderate
Complete transmission failure transmission 5 5 — 64k — 0.2 $2,800–$8,000 Critical
Seat belt or retractor failure airbag 5 4 — 22k — 0.2 $200–$900 High
Cruise control failure adas 5 2 — 97k — 0.2 $200–$1,400 High
Other driver assistance problem adas 5 4 — 47k — 0.2 $250–$1,800 High
Tail light, brake light or signal failure lighting 4 3 — 70k — 0.1 $100–$900 Moderate
Control module (ECM/PCM/BCM) failure electrical 3 2 — 70k — 0.1 $700–$3,000 High
Loss of braking brakes 3 3 — 134k — 0.1 $400–$3,000 Critical
Premature brake pad or rotor wear brakes 3 3 — 23k — 0.1 $300–$1,400 Moderate
Airbag failed to deploy in a crash airbag 3 3 — 95k — 0.1 $1,000–$5,000 Critical
Steering column or shaft failure steering 3 3 — 60k — 0.1 $600–$2,500 Critical
Other steering problem steering 3 2 — 98k — 0.1 $350–$2,400 High
Other lighting problem lighting 3 2 — 61k — 0.1 $120–$1,200 Moderate
Other body or interior problem body 3 3 — 34k — 0.1 $200–$2,000 Moderate
Electrical fire or melted wiring electrical 2 2 — 70k — 0.1 $1,500–$9,000 Critical
Instrument cluster or gauge failure infotainment 2 2 — 8k — 0.1 $350–$1,400 Moderate
ABS module or sensor failure brakes 2 2 — 24k — 0.1 $500–$2,400 High
Control arm, ball joint or bushing failure suspension 2 0 — — — 0.1 $400–$2,200 High
Other suspension problem suspension 2 2 — 17k — 0.1 $350–$2,000 Moderate
Other visibility problem glass 2 2 — 12k — 0.1 $150–$1,400 Moderate
Engine bay fire engine 1 1 — 58k — 0.0 $4,000–$20,000 Critical
Harsh or jerky shifting transmission 1 1 — 33k — 0.0 $600–$4,000 Moderate
Wiring harness or short circuit electrical 1 1 — 69k — 0.0 $400–$3,500 High
Parking brake failure brakes 1 1 — 82k — 0.0 $250–$1,300 Moderate
Door latch or handle failure body 1 1 — 75k — 0.0 $250–$1,200 High
Headlight failure or clouding lighting 1 1 — 98k — 0.0 $150–$1,800 Moderate
Other fuel system problem fuel 1 1 — 140k — 0.0 $300–$2,200 High
Other seat belt problem airbag 1 0 — — — 0.0 $200–$900 High
Unclassified problem other 10 8 60k 68k 80k 0.3 — Moderate

Rate per 1,000 uses a fleet-size estimate derived from recall paperwork for this exact model year. It is a lower bound. Repair costs are typical independent-shop ranges for the failure, not figures from these reports.

How often, against how many were built

Scaled by an estimate of how many of these cars exist, the 2009 Kia Optima draws about 5.1 per 1,000 vehicles, which puts it in the 88th percentile of complaint rates among 2009 vehicles we can rate.

That denominator is the weakest number on the page and it is fair to say so plainly. Rate per 1,000 uses a fleet-size estimate derived from recall paperwork for this exact model year. It is a lower bound.

The working figure is 32,679 vehicles. If the true number is twice that, every rate on this page is half what it says; the ranking against other 2009 vehicles, which is what the risk score uses, is far more robust than the rate itself.

What owners wrote

Verbatim from NHTSA complaint narratives, trimmed for length. The odometer reading is the one the owner gave.

Other powertrain problem

I have a 2009 kia optima lx when I go to brake around 20 MPH it feels like the car is downshifting hard causing me to jerk in the seat. It does this all the time I do feel this is the transmission and I am taking it to the dealer to be serviced. *tr

16,000 miles NHTSA complaint 849836 filed 2011-04-02

Tl* the contact owns a 2009 kia optima. While driving approximately 25 MPH and applying the brakes, the vehicle jerked forward with extreme force. The vehicle was taken to the dealer for diagnostic. The technician stated that the computer would need to have a re-learn procedure performed. After the procedure, the failure continued and was taken back to the dealer where the transmission fluid was replaced. The failure continued and was taken to the dealer a third time. The technicians stated that the transmission would have to be replaced. The transmission was also replaced but to no avail. The approximate failure mileage was 54,000.

54,000 miles NHTSA complaint 895924 filed 2011-12-19

Airbag warning light or occupant sensor fault

The battery died in my 2009 kia optima and upon replacing battery the airbag light came on. It was taken to a kia dealership and was told that it was because we changed the battery. The airbag light was reset. About a week later it came on again and was taken back to the dealership and reset again. It came back on the next day and was again taken to the dealership at what time we were told that it was the b1382 & b1481 airbag problems and that it was going to cost over $1200.00 to fix. Why would changing the battery cause these problems? I had only purchased the car 18 months before this incident. *tr

70,100 miles NHTSA complaint 1031546 filed 2014-01-10

The battery died in my 2009 kia optima and upon replacing battery the airbag light came on. It was taken to a kia dealership and was told that it was because we changed the battery. The airbag light was reset. About a week later it came on again and was taken back to the dealership and reset again. It came back on the next day and was again taken to the dealership at what time we were told that it was the b1382 & b1481 airbag problems and that it was going to cost over $1200.00 to fix. Why would changing the battery cause these problems? I had only purchased the car 18 months before this incident. *tr

70,100 miles NHTSA complaint 1031547 filed 2014-01-10

Other brake problem

While driving on a normal day with out rain and good road conditions esc starts blinking and keeps blinking and the speed keeps going down. Even after flooring the accelerator. This happened 3 times twice after replacing a brake switch that went faulty. Technician at the dealership says that he could not find any code on the vehicle recorded. Really worried of thinking if this happend when I go on to a free way. *tr

28,116 miles NHTSA complaint 879433 filed 2011-09-13

In the past month I have noticed when coming to a stop and applying the brakes on my 2009 kia optima that the car jerks like it doesn't want to stop. I have had my brake pads checked and they are fine. I have however noticed that when I'm coming to a stop and put the car in neutral I stop fine with no jerking. I have taken it to a transmission shop and they have said that their is no problems there and have also called the local kia dealership to have the problem looked at but they stated that if its something not covered under warranty I have to pay $100 just for them looking at the vehicle regardless if they find the problem or not. I have searched the internet and have seen similar problems with this particular car but no information on what is causing the issue. *tr

160,000 miles NHTSA complaint 964233 filed 2013-02-21

Recalls on the 2009 model year

NHTSA has issued 1 recall campaign covering the 2009 Kia Optima, affecting an estimated 32,679 vehicles. A recall is a different kind of evidence from a complaint: it is the regulator and the manufacturer agreeing that something has to be fixed, and the fix is free for as long as the car exists.

The campaigns cover exterior lighting:brake lights:switch. Whether the work was actually done on the car in front of you is a question only the VIN can answer, and the manufacturer or NHTSA will answer it free.

Recalls also distort complaint counts. Publicity about a campaign reminds owners that complaining is possible, so reports for a recalled component often spike after the recall rather than before it.

13V114000

EXTERIOR LIGHTING:BRAKE LIGHTS:SWITCH

980,377 vehicles 2013-04-01
Defect
Kia Motors Corporation (Kia) is recalling certain model year 2007-2010 Rondo, model year 2007-2011 Sedona, Sorento and Sportage, model year 2010-2011 Soul, model year 2008-2011 Optima, model year 2010 Forte, model year 2007-2009 Amanti, and model year 2009 Borrego vehicles. Originally, in April 2013, Kia recalled 623,658 model year 2007-2010 Rondo and Sportage, model year 2007-2011 Sorento, model year 2007 Sedona, model year 2010-2011 Soul, and model year 2011 Optima vehicles. In September 2013, Kia informed the agency that it was adding an additional 356,719 vehicles to…
Consequence
Failure to illuminate the stop lamps during braking or inability to disengage the cruise control could increase the risk of a crash. Additionally, when the ignition is in the 'ON' position, the transmission shifter may be able to be moved out of PARK without first applying the brake. This may lead to unintentional movement of the car which may increase the risk of a crash.
Remedy
Kia will send an interim notification to owners in May 2013. When parts are available, owners will receive a second notification and dealers will replace the stop lamp switch, free of charge. Owners may contact Kia at 1-800-333-4542. Kia's recall campaign number is SC098.

Recall work is free at a franchised dealer regardless of the car's age. Check the VIN at nhtsa.gov/recalls before assuming it was done.

How it ranks in the 2009 field

The score at the top of the page, placed among its peers. The zones are the same thresholds the scorer applies, read out of the scorer itself, so the picture and the band word cannot disagree.

Risk score against the rest of the 2009 field

Scores are ranked within the model year, never across years, because an older car has had longer to accumulate reports.

  • Left fewer and less serious reports
  • Right more, or worse
  • Marker this vehicle

How 2009 compares with the other years

High risk for a 2009 — 149th riskiest of the 295 2009 vehicles we can rate. The comparison is always within the same model year, so an older car is never penalised for having had longer to break.

Across the 20 model years of this car that carry enough reports to score, 2005 comes out best at 57 and 2019 worst at 80, with 2009 itself at 69.

If the model year is negotiable, 2005, 2003, 2007, 2006 and 2004 score lower than 2009 by a margin worth acting on. Same body, same engines, different luck — usually a supplier change or a mid-cycle fix, which the complaint data can show but never explain.

Within the 2005–2010 generation specifically, 2005 is the strongest year at 57 and 2008 the weakest at 70.

Scores compare each year against other cars of the same model year, so a low number on an older car is a real result and not an artefact of age.

Risk score by model year, out of 100

Shorter is better. Years with too few reports to score are shown without a bar rather than as a zero, because no data is not good news.

Within the 2005-2010 generation, 2005 Kia Optima scores best at 57 and 2008 Kia Optima worst at 70.

Where to spend the inspection money

The mileages below are where the first quarter of reports for each mode had already been filed, which makes them the point at which a fault is worth looking for rather than the point at which it happens: other engine problem from about 35k, other brake problem from about 50k, other powertrain problem from about 51k and airbag warning light or occupant sensor fault from about 70k.

On a 2009 Kia Optima with more miles than that on it, the useful question to put to a seller or a mechanic is whether other engine problem has been dealt with, and if so with what parts and at whose expense. A car that has already had the repair is in a different position from one that has not.

None of this is a diagnosis. It is a list of what other owners of the same model year reported, ordered by when they reported it, which is a good place to point an inspection and a poor place to stop.

What this page cannot tell you

166 owner reports; fleet size estimated from this year's own recall paperwork. Every count on this page is therefore a floor: it is the number of owners who went to the trouble of filing with a federal agency, which is a small and self-selected fraction of the owners who had the fault.

Of those 166 reports, 135 carried an odometer reading, so the mileages here describe 81% of the sample rather than all of it. Owners also round: readings pile up on multiples of ten thousand, which is why this site publishes "about 90,000 miles" and not "91,438".

Named failure modes come from matching phrases in the complaint text, so a badly worded complaint can land in the wrong bucket. The effect washes out across hundreds of reports and does not wash out across five.

And nothing here predicts what one car will do. These are other people's complaints, filed years apart, on cars maintained by strangers. Read the page as a map of where this model year has previously gone wrong, then have the specific car in front of you inspected.

Questions this page answers

What are the most common problems with the 2009 Kia Optima?

The most-reported failures are other powertrain problem (24 reports, median 65,000 miles), airbag warning light or occupant sensor fault (14 reports, median 75,000 miles) and other brake problem (13 reports, median 60,000 miles). Counts come from owner complaints filed with NHTSA, which are voluntary, so they show what owners bothered to report rather than every fault that occurred.

At what mileage do 2009 Kia Optima problems start?

Other brake problem is the earliest failure mode to show up, with a median reported mileage of 60,000 miles and a quarter of reports before 50,000 miles. Across all failure modes on this year, the median report sits at 65,000 miles.

Is the 2009 Kia Optima reliable?

It scores 69 out of 100 on our risk index, which is high — 149th riskiest of the 295 2009 vehicles we can rate. The score is a comparison against other 2009 vehicles, not a prediction about any individual car, and it is built from complaint rates, severity and how early failures appear.

Which year of the Kia Optima is best?

Within the 2005–2010 generation, 2005 scores best at 57 out of 100 and 2008 worst at 70. Same body, same engines, different luck.

Where this comes from. Every figure above is computed from NHTSA owner complaints and recall records for this exact make, model and year. Complaints are voluntary and self-selected, so treat counts as a floor. The methodology page writes out each formula, and the same numbers are available as JSON.

What breaks at my mileage Compare with another car

Source Owner complaints and recall records published by the US National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, model years 1996–2027 Figures rebuilt Published by AtWhatMileage How every figure is computed