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2008 Kia Optima: what breaks, and at what mileage

What breaks on the 2008 Kia Optima

On the 2008 Kia Optima, the failure owners report most often is airbag warning light or occupant sensor fault, and the reports cluster around 80,000 miles. The earliest to appear is other visibility problem, reported by a median of 50,000 miles. Overall it scores 70 out of 100, high risk for a 2008.

High risk for a 2008 — 128th riskiest of the 356 2008 vehicles we can rate. 188 owner reports; fleet size estimated from this year's own recall paperwork.

The failures owners actually file about

Owners have reported 37 named failure modes on the 2008 Kia Optima, and the three most-reported carry 24% of everything filed, which is an unusually even spread for one model year.

Airbag warning light or occupant sensor fault leads with 17 reports, about 0.5 per 1,000 vehicles and with the middle half of reports between 69k to 85,000 miles.

Other engine problem follows with 14 reports, usually reported between 49k to 105,000 miles. 3 of those reports mention a fire.

Other visibility problem follows with 14 reports, usually reported between 18k to 75,000 miles.

By system, the reports fall mostly into airbag (31), electrical (24) and engine (17).

When these failures get reported

136 of the reports on the 2008 Kia Optima came with an odometer reading, and half of those were filed before 68,000 miles.

Cumulatively, 38% by 50,000 miles, 75% by 100,000 miles and 92% by 150,000 miles of the dated reports had been filed, with 3 filed above the top of the chart.

The busiest stretch is between 0 and 10,000 miles, which alone holds 18% of the dated reports.

30% of the dated reports were filed below 36,000 miles.

In the order they tend to show up: other visibility problem around 51k, airbag warning light or occupant sensor fault around 82k, other engine problem around 82k and other electrical problem around 94k.

Median
  1. Airbag warning light or occupant sensor fault 82k
  2. Other engine problem 82k
  3. Other visibility problem 51k
  4. Other electrical problem 94k
  5. Airbag failed to deploy in a crash 100k
  6. Alternator or charging system failure 97k
  7. Other speed control problem 60k
  8. Parking brake failure 160k
  9. Seat belt or retractor failure 52k
  10. Steering column or shaft failure 130k
  11. Control arm, ball joint or bushing failure 65k
  12. Other powertrain problem 116k

Tick median reported mileage Solid middle half of reports Faint 10th to 90th percentile Colour how bad the failure is when it happens

Showing the 12 most-reported failure modes of 37. The full list is in the table below.

How reports accumulate

Share of reports filed by each mileage
half by 68.1k

Every report with an odometer reading, cumulative, from 0 to 200,000 miles. A further 3 reports came in above that, which is why the line stops short of the top. A curve that climbs early is a car with early problems, whatever its total.

  • Line share of reports filed by that mileage
  • Dashed the median reported mileage

What happens when these parts fail

Across the named modes, 21 mention a crash, 6 a fire, 17 an injury and 5 a fatality. Those are the words owners used in their own complaints, and NHTSA does not verify them, but they are the closest thing in this data to a measure of what a failure actually did.

The average severity weight across every report on this year is 6.25, where a stalled engine or a failed airbag weighs many times more than a rattling trim panel, and a figure this high means the reports are dominated by failures with safety consequences rather than annoyances. The weighting is set out in full on the methodology page.

What the top failures cost to put right, as editorial estimates for an independent US shop rather than figures from NHTSA: airbag warning light or occupant sensor fault at $300–$1,600, other engine problem at $300–$4,000, other visibility problem at $150–$1,400 and other electrical problem at $250–$2,000. Dealer labour, a seized bolt or a part that is no longer made can push any of these past the top of its range.

15% of the reports on this year sit in the engine, transmission, drivetrain or cooling systems — the four where a repair bill is usually four figures.

Every reported failure mode

Mileage figures are percentiles of owner-reported readings. Click a column to sort.
Failure mode System Reports With reading 25th Median 75th Per 1,000 Typical repair Severity
Airbag warning light or occupant sensor fault airbag 17 10 69k 82k 84k 0.5 $300–$1,600 High
Other engine problem engine 14 12 49k 82k 104k 0.4 $300–$4,000 High
Other visibility problem glass 14 13 18k 51k 75k 0.4 $150–$1,400 Moderate
Other electrical problem electrical 12 8 49k 94k 130k 0.4 $250–$2,000 Moderate
Airbag failed to deploy in a crash airbag 9 5 — 100k — 0.3 $1,000–$5,000 Critical
Alternator or charging system failure electrical 8 5 — 97k — 0.2 $450–$1,600 High
Other speed control problem adas 6 4 — 60k — 0.2 $250–$2,000 Critical
Parking brake failure brakes 5 5 — 160k — 0.2 $250–$1,300 Moderate
Seat belt or retractor failure airbag 5 3 — 52k — 0.2 $200–$900 High
Steering column or shaft failure steering 5 3 — 130k — 0.2 $600–$2,500 Critical
Control arm, ball joint or bushing failure suspension 5 1 — 65k — 0.2 $400–$2,200 High
Other powertrain problem transmission 5 2 — 116k — 0.2 $400–$4,500 High
Other body or interior problem body 4 4 — 48k — 0.1 $200–$2,000 Moderate
Shifter, linkage or stuck-in-park failure transmission 3 3 — 79k — 0.1 $250–$1,400 High
Ignition switch, key fob or immobilizer failure electrical 3 3 — 61k — 0.1 $250–$1,500 High
Other fuel system problem fuel 3 3 — 48k — 0.1 $300–$2,200 High
Other brake problem brakes 3 2 — 50k — 0.1 $300–$1,800 High
Other steering problem steering 3 2 — 57k — 0.1 $350–$2,400 High
Other lighting problem lighting 3 2 — 36k — 0.1 $120–$1,200 Moderate
Complete transmission failure transmission 2 2 — 217k — 0.1 $2,800–$8,000 Critical
Seat, track or recliner failure body 2 2 — 97k — 0.1 $300–$2,200 High
Headlight failure or clouding lighting 2 1 — 1k — 0.1 $150–$1,800 Moderate
Other suspension problem suspension 2 0 — — — 0.1 $350–$2,000 Moderate
Other wheel or tire problem wheels 2 2 — 12k — 0.1 $200–$1,500 High
Complete engine failure or seizure engine 1 1 — 54k — 0.0 $4,500–$12,000 Critical
Timing chain, belt or tensioner failure engine 1 1 — 70k — 0.0 $1,200–$4,500 Critical
Stalling while driving engine 1 1 — 36k — 0.0 $300–$2,500 Critical
Transmission will not engage a gear transmission 1 0 — — — 0.0 $1,500–$6,000 Critical
Wheel bearing or hub failure drivetrain 1 0 — — — 0.0 $350–$1,200 Moderate
Fuel pump failure fuel 1 0 — — — 0.0 $600–$2,600 High
Fuel tank, filler or EVAP failure fuel 1 1 — 28k — 0.0 $250–$1,800 Moderate
Control module (ECM/PCM/BCM) failure electrical 1 1 — 65k — 0.0 $700–$3,000 High
Backup camera failure infotainment 1 0 — — — 0.0 $250–$1,200 Moderate
Instrument cluster or gauge failure infotainment 1 1 — 35k — 0.0 $350–$1,400 Moderate
Premature brake pad or rotor wear brakes 1 0 — — — 0.0 $300–$1,400 Moderate
Tire blowout or tread separation wheels 1 0 — — — 0.0 $200–$1,500 Critical
Tail light, brake light or signal failure lighting 1 1 — 38k — 0.0 $100–$900 Moderate
Unclassified problem other 38 32 3k 31k 81k 1.2 — Moderate

Rate per 1,000 uses a fleet-size estimate derived from recall paperwork for this exact model year. It is a lower bound. Repair costs are typical independent-shop ranges for the failure, not figures from these reports.

How often, against how many were built

Scaled by an estimate of how many of these cars exist, the 2008 Kia Optima draws about 5.8 per 1,000 vehicles, which puts it in the 84th percentile of complaint rates among 2008 vehicles we can rate.

That denominator is the weakest number on the page and it is fair to say so plainly. Rate per 1,000 uses a fleet-size estimate derived from recall paperwork for this exact model year. It is a lower bound.

The working figure is 32,679 vehicles. If the true number is twice that, every rate on this page is half what it says; the ranking against other 2008 vehicles, which is what the risk score uses, is far more robust than the rate itself.

What owners wrote

Verbatim from NHTSA complaint narratives, trimmed for length. The odometer reading is the one the owner gave.

Airbag warning light or occupant sensor fault

Tl* the contact owns a 2008 kia optima. The contact stated the air bag warning light illuminated only when someone was sitting in the passenger seat. The vehicle was taken to a mechanic who stated when the light was on it indicated that the air bag may not deploy in a crash or it may deploy without a crash occurring. The vehicle was not taken to a dealer for diagnostic testing. The failure mileage was 69,000 and the current mileage was 75,000. Updated 06/26/12 *bf a diagnostic revealer the oc passenger sensor mat was defective. The problem was corrected. However, three days later when a passenger sat in the seat, the air bag light illuminated on the dashboard again. The consumer returned to the repair shop again. The mechanic stated it seemed that if someone sat in the passenger seat, did a lot of moving around, or was slightly heavy in weight, it triggered the air bag light. The consumer stated the light is currently on. Updated 06/27/12. *jb

65,000 miles NHTSA complaint 919205 filed 2012-05-18

We were hit in the passenger side and the entire side of the car was crushed and none of the air bags ever deployed and the passenger side seat belt did not lock. I had reported the fact that when someone was sitting in the passenger seat that the airbag light was not coming on to the car dealership that I purchased the car from but they just made excuses that the person sitting in the seat was not heavy enough even though they weighed over 150lbs. *tr

80,000 miles NHTSA complaint 921877 filed 2012-06-06

Other engine problem

2008 kia optima exv6, since new, when lightly braking while decelerating from 40 MPH, the car downshifts and has an acceleration surge at around 25 MPH. When complaining to the dealer, they said the kia's were made that way. This is an unsafe condition that can cause a rear end collision. The car should have normal engine braking that allows for continuous deceleration as long as the accelerator pedal is not touched. Thank you for your consideration of this complaint. *tr

600 miles NHTSA complaint 697327 filed 2008-11-22

2008 kia optima 4cyl automatic. I live in florida, hot all the time, use air almost all year. Car will stall out while in motion within first few minutes while AC is on when I am slowing down to stop signs or when crossing intersections where I have to get across quickly then let off gas to make turn. Car becomes hard to steer when engine cuts off, worse than a car without power steering, sometimes it feels like it wont make it through the intersection to the median safely. Can start the car again, but it takes a few seconds to throw car into neutral, turn ignition, and put back into drive. As I said this happens a lot while going through the turn of intersection/ divided highway and those few seconds make the difference between a safely timed turn and a potential collision. Problem occurs frequenlty for a week or two, then goes away for a while and comes back. Once the engine has warmed up and has been moving for 5 minutes or so, it doesn't happen. Took it to kia dealership since this vehicle has 45000 miles on it and is still under manufactures bumper to bumper warranty, dealership service department said they were aware of the…

45,000 miles NHTSA complaint 871243 filed 2011-08-02

Other visibility problem

Tl*the contact owns a 2008 kia optima. Whenever the contact would drive down a hill or slope with the low beams activated, a blind spot would appear three car lengths ahead of his view. The contact did not notice any differences in the vehicle prior to the failure. The vehicle has not been diagnosed by the dealer. The speed was unknown. The current and failure mileages were 2,000. Updated 07/31/08. *lj updated 08/05/08

2,000 miles NHTSA complaint 677123 filed 2008-07-08

Tl*the contact owns a 2008 kia optima. While driving 40 MPH, air would seep through the window while it was closed. The contact could hear the wind at speeds of 40 and 60 MPH. One dealer suggested driving with the rearview mirror closed towards the door. Another dealer attempted to adjust the door, but was unsuccesful. The vehicle has not been repaired. The current and failure mileages were less than 4,000.

4,000 miles NHTSA complaint 722994 filed 2009-06-09

Recalls on the 2008 model year

NHTSA has issued 3 recall campaigns covering the 2008 Kia Optima, affecting an estimated 85,201 vehicles. A recall is a different kind of evidence from a complaint: it is the regulator and the manufacturer agreeing that something has to be fixed, and the fix is free for as long as the car exists.

The campaigns cover exterior lighting:brake lights:switch, air bags:frontal and power train:automatic transmission:lever and linkage:column . Whether the work was actually done on the car in front of you is a question only the VIN can answer, and the manufacturer or NHTSA will answer it free.

Recalls also distort complaint counts. Publicity about a campaign reminds owners that complaining is possible, so reports for a recalled component often spike after the recall rather than before it.

13V114000

EXTERIOR LIGHTING:BRAKE LIGHTS:SWITCH

980,377 vehicles 2013-04-01
Defect
Kia Motors Corporation (Kia) is recalling certain model year 2007-2010 Rondo, model year 2007-2011 Sedona, Sorento and Sportage, model year 2010-2011 Soul, model year 2008-2011 Optima, model year 2010 Forte, model year 2007-2009 Amanti, and model year 2009 Borrego vehicles. Originally, in April 2013, Kia recalled 623,658 model year 2007-2010 Rondo and Sportage, model year 2007-2011 Sorento, model year 2007 Sedona, model year 2010-2011 Soul, and model year 2011 Optima vehicles. In September 2013, Kia informed the agency that it was adding an additional 356,719 vehicles to…
Consequence
Failure to illuminate the stop lamps during braking or inability to disengage the cruise control could increase the risk of a crash. Additionally, when the ignition is in the 'ON' position, the transmission shifter may be able to be moved out of PARK without first applying the brake. This may lead to unintentional movement of the car which may increase the risk of a crash.
Remedy
Kia will send an interim notification to owners in May 2013. When parts are available, owners will receive a second notification and dealers will replace the stop lamp switch, free of charge. Owners may contact Kia at 1-800-333-4542. Kia's recall campaign number is SC098.
12V014000

AIR BAGS:FRONTAL

145,755 vehicles 2012-01-17
Defect
Kia motors america, inc. (kia) is recalling certain model year 2006-2008 kia optima vehicles manufactured from september 29, 2005, through january 29, 2008, and model year 2007 and 2008 kia rondo vehicles manufactured from september 13, 2006, through march 21, 2008. The clock spring contact assembly for the driver's side air bag supplemental restraint system (SRS) may become damaged through usage over time. If the clock spring contact assembly becomes damaged, the driver's air bag electrical circuit will experience a high resistance condition potentially causing the…
Consequence
If the clock spring develops high resistance, in the event of a crash, the drivers air bag will not deploy and will not be able to properly protect the driver, increasing the risk of injuries.
Remedy
Kia will notify owners, and dealers will replace the vehicle's air bag clock spring contact assembly, free of charge. The safety recall began on july 11, 2012. Owners may contact kia customer assistance center at 1-800-333-4542.
11V153000

POWER TRAIN:AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION:LEVER AND LINKAGE:COLUMN SHIFT

70,115 vehicles 2011-03-09
Defect
Kia is recalling certain model year 2006-2008 optima vehicles manufactured from september 29, 2005, through june 13, 2007. There is a possibility that the shift cable may have been installed incorrectly, causing tension in the cable. If present, this condition could cause the cable to detach from the shifter assembly's dowel pin preventing the transmission from being shifted. The shift lever can then be moved into the park (p) position while the vehicle's transmission is still in the last used gear before detachment.
Consequence
If the driver leaves the vehicle without engaging the parking brake, there is a possibility that the vehicle can roll injure a person in its path or cause a crash.
Remedy
Dealers will inspect the shift cable and reinstall if necessary free of charge. The safety recall began on march 23, 2011. Owner may contact kia at 1-800-333-4542.

Recall work is free at a franchised dealer regardless of the car's age. Check the VIN at nhtsa.gov/recalls before assuming it was done.

How it ranks in the 2008 field

The score at the top of the page, placed among its peers. The zones are the same thresholds the scorer applies, read out of the scorer itself, so the picture and the band word cannot disagree.

Risk score against the rest of the 2008 field

Scores are ranked within the model year, never across years, because an older car has had longer to accumulate reports.

  • Left fewer and less serious reports
  • Right more, or worse
  • Marker this vehicle

Better and worse years of the same car

High risk for a 2008 — 128th riskiest of the 356 2008 vehicles we can rate. The comparison is always within the same model year, so an older car is never penalised for having had longer to break.

Across the 20 model years of this car that carry enough reports to score, 2005 comes out best at 57 and 2019 worst at 80, with 2008 itself at 70.

If the model year is negotiable, 2005, 2003, 2007, 2006 and 2004 score lower than 2008 by a margin worth acting on. Same body, same engines, different luck — usually a supplier change or a mid-cycle fix, which the complaint data can show but never explain.

Within the 2005–2010 generation specifically, 2005 is the strongest year at 57 and 2008 the weakest at 70.

Scores compare each year against other cars of the same model year, so a low number on an older car is a real result and not an artefact of age.

Risk score by model year, out of 100

Shorter is better. Years with too few reports to score are shown without a bar rather than as a zero, because no data is not good news.

Within the 2005-2010 generation, 2005 Kia Optima scores best at 57 and 2008 Kia Optima worst at 70.

Where to spend the inspection money

The mileages below are where the first quarter of reports for each mode had already been filed, which makes them the point at which a fault is worth looking for rather than the point at which it happens: other visibility problem from about 18k, other engine problem from about 49k, other electrical problem from about 49k and airbag warning light or occupant sensor fault from about 69k.

On a 2008 Kia Optima with more miles than that on it, the useful question to put to a seller or a mechanic is whether other visibility problem has been dealt with, and if so with what parts and at whose expense. A car that has already had the repair is in a different position from one that has not.

None of this is a diagnosis. It is a list of what other owners of the same model year reported, ordered by when they reported it, which is a good place to point an inspection and a poor place to stop.

Where these figures stop being useful

188 owner reports; fleet size estimated from this year's own recall paperwork. Every count on this page is therefore a floor: it is the number of owners who went to the trouble of filing with a federal agency, which is a small and self-selected fraction of the owners who had the fault.

Of those 188 reports, 136 carried an odometer reading, so the mileages here describe 72% of the sample rather than all of it. Owners also round: readings pile up on multiples of ten thousand, which is why this site publishes "about 90,000 miles" and not "91,438".

Named failure modes come from matching phrases in the complaint text, so a badly worded complaint can land in the wrong bucket. The effect washes out across hundreds of reports and does not wash out across five.

And nothing here predicts what one car will do. These are other people's complaints, filed years apart, on cars maintained by strangers. Read the page as a map of where this model year has previously gone wrong, then have the specific car in front of you inspected.

Questions this page answers

What are the most common problems with the 2008 Kia Optima?

The most-reported failures are airbag warning light or occupant sensor fault (17 reports, median 80,000 miles), other engine problem (14 reports, median 80,000 miles) and other visibility problem (14 reports, median 50,000 miles). Counts come from owner complaints filed with NHTSA, which are voluntary, so they show what owners bothered to report rather than every fault that occurred.

At what mileage do 2008 Kia Optima problems start?

Other visibility problem is the earliest failure mode to show up, with a median reported mileage of 50,000 miles and a quarter of reports before 20,000 miles. Across all failure modes on this year, the median report sits at 68,000 miles.

Is the 2008 Kia Optima reliable?

It scores 70 out of 100 on our risk index, which is high — 128th riskiest of the 356 2008 vehicles we can rate. The score is a comparison against other 2008 vehicles, not a prediction about any individual car, and it is built from complaint rates, severity and how early failures appear.

Which year of the Kia Optima is best?

Within the 2005–2010 generation, 2005 scores best at 57 out of 100 and 2008 worst at 70. Same body, same engines, different luck.

Where this comes from. Every figure above is computed from NHTSA owner complaints and recall records for this exact make, model and year. Complaints are voluntary and self-selected, so treat counts as a floor. The methodology page writes out each formula, and the same numbers are available as JSON.

What breaks at my mileage Compare with another car

Source Owner complaints and recall records published by the US National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, model years 1996–2027 Figures rebuilt Published by AtWhatMileage How every figure is computed