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Other visibility problem on the 2012 Kia Optima

Reports of this failure 11
With an odometer reading 9
Reports per 1,000 built 0.1 per 1,000
Filed below 36,000 miles 44%
Mention a crash, fire or injury 0
Typical repair $150–$1,400
What it means when it happens Moderate
Rank among this year's problems 23rd

When other visibility problem gets reported

Owners of the 2012 Kia Optima report other visibility problem at a median of 40,000 miles. A quarter of the reports come in before 5,000 miles and a quarter after 60,000 miles, from 9 reports that carried an odometer reading.

A part like this is normally expected to survive 75,000 miles. It is the 23rd most-reported problem on this model year.

The mileage distribution

The reported range runs from 5,000 miles at the tenth percentile to 100,000 miles at the ninetieth, a spread of 96,662 miles across the middle 80% of reports.

When the reports scatter this far, the mileage is telling you about how these cars were driven more than about the part itself.

44% of the dated reports were filed under 36,000 miles.

The whole distribution

Percentiles of the 9 odometer readings owners gave.
10th25thMedian 75th90th
3,562 miles 6,313 miles 40,000 miles 60,050 miles 100,224 miles

Read the 10th percentile as “one report in ten arrived this early”. Exact figures are shown in this table because it is the table of record; everywhere else on the site they are rounded to the precision the sample can carry.

What a percentile can and cannot tell you here

These five numbers describe the readings owners gave, in order. The median is the middle one: half the reports arrived below it. The 10th and 90th are the edges of the bulk of the distribution, and the distance between them is the part worth reading. A tight spread — say 70,000 to 95,000 miles — points at something that wears out on a schedule, and the schedule is knowable. A wide one, 20,000 to 190,000, points at a fault that hits some cars and never troubles others, which means the mileage on the listing in front of you tells you very little about your odds.

What these figures are not is a survival curve. Every reading here comes from a car whose owner filed a complaint, so the sample contains only failures: it cannot say what share of the fleet made it past 150,000 miles untouched, because those owners had nothing to report. Nor is the mileage the moment of failure — it is the odometer reading as recalled at the time of filing, which may be weeks later and is sometimes rounded to the nearest ten thousand by the person typing it.

Percentiles are shown at all only once 8 readings exist for the vehicle and mode. Below that the middle of a handful of numbers is noise wearing a decimal point, so the figures are withheld rather than dressed up.

What happens, and what it costs

Putting it right typically runs $150–$1,400 at an independent US shop. That range is an editorial estimate held in this site's failure-mode catalogue, not a figure from NHTSA, and it is a repair cost rather than a diagnosis cost.

The same failure on other years

The same failure is reported on 11 model years of this car. It shows up earliest on the 2011, at a median of 10,000 miles, and latest on the 2015 at 100,000 miles.

By volume the 2007 carries the most reports, with 27; the 2012 has 11. A mode that appears across most years of a model is usually a design choice rather than a bad batch.

If one year stands out to the left, that is the year to avoid; if the whole line sits at a similar mileage, this is wear rather than a defect in one production run.

What owners wrote

Verbatim from NHTSA complaint narratives, trimmed for length. The mileage is the one the owner gave.

Tl* the contact owns a 2012 kia optima. The contact was driving approximately 60 MPH when the front driver side rear view mirror detached from the housing. On a separate occasion while driving, there was a reduction in the engine power and immediately the vehicle stalled. The engine restarted and the contact was able to resume normally. The vehicle was taken to an authorized dealer who stated a rock struck the mirror which caused the detachment and they refused to repair the vehicle at their expense. The technician was unable to detect a trouble code for the engine malfunction. The vehicle had not been repaired. The manufacturer was made aware of the problem. The approximate failure mileage was 3,653. The VIN was unavailable.

3,653 miles NHTSA complaint 894375 filed 2011-12-08

Driving along interstate, about to merge into traffic when mirror suddenly just fell off! The only thing that kept it from completely falling off was the cable running into the door. Took it to the dealer who said "they had never seen anything like this before!" it will be 4 days before my mirror gets replaced! This car is not safe to drive in it's current condition. *tr

6,313 miles NHTSA complaint 927210 filed 2012-07-10

Tl* the contact owns a 2012 kia optima. While driving 50 MPH, the sun roof glass exploded with a loud bang. The contact was uninjured. The manufacturer and dealer were made aware of the failure. The vehicle was not repaired. The failure mileage was 60,050.

60,050 miles NHTSA complaint 1194095 filed 2015-06-26

Also reported on the 2012 Kia Optima

Other engine problem

263 reports median 104k

Other steering problem

131 reports median 52k

Other electrical problem

75 reports median 78k

Other brake problem

59 reports median 120k

Complete engine failure or seizure

56 reports median 94k

Steering column or shaft failure

42 reports median 70k

How far this goes

Complaints are voluntary, so 11 is a floor and not a count of affected cars. Mileages are typed in by owners and cluster on round numbers. And the mode itself is assigned by software reading the complaint text, which is reliable in bulk and fallible one report at a time.

Questions this page answers

At what mileage does other visibility problem happen on the 2012 Kia Optima?

Across 9 owner reports that included an odometer reading, half were filed by 40,000 miles. A quarter were filed before 5,000 miles and a quarter after 60,000 miles. These are the mileages owners reported when they complained, not a prediction for any individual car.

How common is other visibility problem on the 2012 Kia Optima?

11 reports have been filed with NHTSA, about 0.1 per 1,000 vehicles. Complaints are voluntary, so this is a floor rather than a count of affected cars.

What this is and is not. These are the mileages at which owners chose to complain to a federal agency, which is not the same as the mileage at which the part fails on every car. It skews toward failures that happened outside warranty, cost real money, or frightened someone. It is still the only public dataset that carries failure mileage at all, and the shape of a few hundred readings is informative even when a single one is not. Methodology · JSON · this failure on other cars

Source Owner complaints and recall records published by the US National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, model years 1996–2027 Figures rebuilt Published by AtWhatMileage How every figure is computed