Other visibility problem on the 2004 Fleetwood Bounder
Only 7 reports for this mode came with an odometer reading, which is too few for percentiles to mean anything. The page is here because someone linked to it; treat the figures as anecdotes, and see the full report for this year instead.
When other visibility problem gets reported
There are 12 reports of other visibility problem on the 2004 Fleetwood Bounder, 7 with a mileage attached. That is too few to place the failure on the odometer with any confidence.
A part like this is normally expected to survive 75,000 miles. It is the 1st most-reported problem on this model year.
The whole distribution
| 10th | 25th | Median | 75th | 90th |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| — | — | 25,000 miles | — | — |
Read the 10th percentile as “one report in ten arrived this early”. Exact figures are shown in this table because it is the table of record; everywhere else on the site they are rounded to the precision the sample can carry.
What a percentile can and cannot tell you here
These five numbers describe the readings owners gave, in order. The median is the middle one: half the reports arrived below it. The 10th and 90th are the edges of the bulk of the distribution, and the distance between them is the part worth reading. A tight spread — say 70,000 to 95,000 miles — points at something that wears out on a schedule, and the schedule is knowable. A wide one, 20,000 to 190,000, points at a fault that hits some cars and never troubles others, which means the mileage on the listing in front of you tells you very little about your odds.
What these figures are not is a survival curve. Every reading here comes from a car whose owner filed a complaint, so the sample contains only failures: it cannot say what share of the fleet made it past 150,000 miles untouched, because those owners had nothing to report. Nor is the mileage the moment of failure — it is the odometer reading as recalled at the time of filing, which may be weeks later and is sometimes rounded to the nearest ten thousand by the person typing it.
Percentiles are shown at all only once 8 readings exist for the vehicle and mode. Below that the middle of a handful of numbers is noise wearing a decimal point, so the figures are withheld rather than dressed up.
What happens, and what it costs
Putting it right typically runs $150–$1,400 at an independent US shop. That range is an editorial estimate held in this site's failure-mode catalogue, not a figure from NHTSA, and it is a repair cost rather than a diagnosis cost.
The same failure on other years
The same failure is reported on 6 model years of this car. It shows up earliest on the 2005, at a median of 15,000 miles, and latest on the 1996 at 45,000 miles.
By volume the 2004 is the worst of them, which makes this a problem of this specific year rather than of the model as a whole.
If one year stands out to the left, that is the year to avoid; if the whole line sits at a similar mileage, this is wear rather than a defect in one production run.
Tick median reported mileage Solid middle half of reports Faint 10th to 90th percentile Colour how bad the failure is when it happens
What owners wrote
Verbatim from NHTSA complaint narratives, trimmed for length. The mileage is the one the owner gave.
2004 bounder coach purchased new in aug/sept 2003. I (2nd owner) purchased coach in dec 2006. Coach put directly into storage until feb 2007, when I discovered the drivers side window and the l/r window were fogged. Thought it was film from being stored. It was not after inspection. Windows have completely lost their seal. Can not see out of drivers window when it rains or when sun is shining on them. Upon closer inspection found that all the windows ( 11 ) have some degree of fogging. I contacted fleetwood who said they could do nothing and told me to contact se-gi products in california. I did and they said to send them pictures and a description of problem. They called me after receiving them and said the coach was out of the 3-year warranty and they could not do anything. I called fleetwood again they said "things have changed in the past month or so and she would call segi and see what she could do. She told me she just had another coach in the past few weeks with almost the identical problem and received help for them". 4 days later she called me back and said "se-gi is unwilling to do anything, not even sell me windows at…
Tl*- the contact owns a 2004 fleet wood bounder. The manufacturer of the glass is se-gi products inc. The contact stated that the drivers side windows are not clear, which impairs his visibility. A reduction in visibility increases the risk of vehicle crash. He is in the process of replacing the windows at an expense of 300.00. He contacted the manufacturer and a representative stated that because the warranty was expired, they would not provide any assistance. The failure mileage was 22,800. The current mileage is 24,300.
The driver and passenger windows on my 2004 fleetwood bounder are fogging on the inside of the dual pane window. This makes it hard to see your side mirrors and vehicles on your side. I have another window that is also fogging. *tr
Also reported on the 2004 Fleetwood Bounder
Other brake problem
Other body or interior problem
Overheating
Loss of braking
Engine sensor failure
Steering column or shaft failure
How far this goes
This page is kept out of search results because 12 reports is not enough to publish percentiles from. It stays reachable because somebody looking at this exact car would rather see the reports than be told there are none.
Complaints are voluntary, so 12 is a floor and not a count of affected cars. Mileages are typed in by owners and cluster on round numbers. And the mode itself is assigned by software reading the complaint text, which is reliable in bulk and fallible one report at a time.
Questions this page answers
At what mileage does other visibility problem happen on the 2004 Fleetwood Bounder?
Across 7 owner reports that included an odometer reading, half were filed by 25,000 miles. A quarter were filed before — and a quarter after —. These are the mileages owners reported when they complained, not a prediction for any individual car.
How common is other visibility problem on the 2004 Fleetwood Bounder?
12 reports have been filed with NHTSA, about 14 per 1,000 vehicles. Complaints are voluntary, so this is a floor rather than a count of affected cars.
What this is and is not. These are the mileages at which owners chose to complain to a federal agency, which is not the same as the mileage at which the part fails on every car. It skews toward failures that happened outside warranty, cost real money, or frightened someone. It is still the only public dataset that carries failure mileage at all, and the shape of a few hundred readings is informative even when a single one is not. Methodology · JSON · this failure on other cars
Source Owner complaints and recall records published by the US National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, model years 1996–2027 Figures rebuilt Published by AtWhatMileage How every figure is computed